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		<title>Comment on Outline of Judges by preacherwin</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your kind words.
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		<title>Comment on Aquinas&#8217; Five Ways:  Proofs for the Existence of God from General Revelation by preacherwin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 20:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Win Groseclose

Blessings, Ben, as you finish your paper up.

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<p>Blessings, Ben, as you finish your paper up.</p>
<p>win</p>
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		<title>Comment on Aquinas&#8217; Five Ways:  Proofs for the Existence of God from General Revelation by Ben</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[preacherwin what is your name i would like to cite you for my apologetics paper]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>preacherwin what is your name i would like to cite you for my apologetics paper</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outline of Judges by costa blanca anglican chaplaincy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 16:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have read some good stuff here. Certainly worth bookmarking for revisiting.
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surprise how much effort you put to make such a magnificent 

informative website.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read some good stuff here. Certainly worth bookmarking for revisiting.<br />
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		<title>Comment on About by preacherwin</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guin, I am glad that these have been a blessing. God gets the real credit, though, in every way.  Blessings,  win]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guin, I am glad that these have been a blessing. God gets the real credit, though, in every way.  Blessings,  win</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[dear pastor win: thank you so much for making these biblically-based writings and resources available. am going through times (common to all ) that greatly challenge me to question the Lord&#039;s intentions towards me. finding your website and its&#039; contents are helpful as i walk these things out. blessings on you and yours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear pastor win: thank you so much for making these biblically-based writings and resources available. am going through times (common to all ) that greatly challenge me to question the Lord&#8217;s intentions towards me. finding your website and its&#8217; contents are helpful as i walk these things out. blessings on you and yours.</p>
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		<title>Comment on C.S. Lewis:  The Problem of Pain (outline) by preacherwin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the delay, Mohit, I got busy and this got set to the side. My bad.

Let me start by also suggesting Colin Duriez&#039;s book, &quot;The CS Lewis Encyclopedia.&quot; It is a great reference. This is how he addresses the matter of the &quot;numinous.&quot;

&quot;Numinous: An all-pervasive sense of the other is focused in a quality of the numinous, a basic human experience charted by the German thinker Rudolf Otto in his book, &quot;The Idea of the Holy&quot; (1923), which deeply influenced Lewis. The primary numinous experience involves a sense of dependence upon what stands wholly other to mankind. This otherness (or otherworldliness) is unapproachable and awesome. But it has a fascination. The experience of the numinous is captured better by suggestion and allusion than by a theoretical analysis.&quot;

&quot;Many realities captured in imaginative fiction could be described as having some quality of the numinous. CS Leis realized this, incorporation the idea into his apologetic for the Christian view of suffering, &quot;The Problem of Pain,&quot; and he cited an event from Kenneth Graham&#039;s fantasy for children, &quot;The Wind in the Willows,&quot; to illustrate it. The final part of &quot;The Voyage of the Dawn Treader&quot; particularly embodies the numinous, as travelers approach Aslan&#039;s Country across the Last Sea.&quot;

&quot;Where the numinous is captured, its appeal is firstly to the imagination, which also senses it most accurately. It belongs to the area of meaning that we cannot easily conceptualize. CS Lewis found the numinous when he read George MacDonald&#039;s &quot;Phantasies,&quot; describing the effect in &quot;Surprised by Joy&quot; as baptizing his imagination. It was years later that he was able to reconcile this experience with his thinking.&quot;
-Colin Duriez, &quot;The CS Lewis Encyclopedia&quot;, page 149. Copyright 2000 by Inspirational Press.

If you look at the introduction to Lewis&#039; book, he unpackages the idea of numinous a bit -- separating the idea of fear (the lion in the next room) from dread (the ghost in the room) from awe (the presence of the altogether holy God in the room). Like Duriez points out, it is not so much a tangible experience or feeling that one can put their finger on by analysis, but it is the twisting of one&#039;s gut or perhaps the goose-bumps that arise on one&#039;s arms or the small hairs on the back of one&#039;s neck standing up in the presence of one totally not of this world.

I think that an excellent Biblical example can be found in the various theophanies we find in the Bible -- Isaiah&#039;s experience in the Temple in Isaiah 6, for example, where Isaiah&#039;s only response is: &quot;woe is me.&quot; John the Apostle has a similar experience in Revelation 1, where his only reaction is to fall down as if dead. It is the kind of sense that we ought to get when we come into the presence of God for prayer and worship (though we are often way too casual in both of these areas). 

In Lewis&#039; writings, he develops the idea of &quot;the normal.&quot; For a lack of a better way to describe it, it comes from the sense that there are certain attributes that are found pleasing to the eye -- certain shapes, colors, combinations of sounds, proportions, for example, that just seem &quot;right&quot; and proper and others that seem at best unpleasant and at worst, obscene.

It is from the presence of the numinous that the &quot;normal&quot; gets its &quot;rightness.&quot; And that is what leads to the Problem of Pain. God is good and his presence of holiness (numinous) is right and holy. Why then does this God permit such wickedness to take place n this world of his? 

Here is my suggestion. Plow through the book and get the gist of his argument, and then come back to this idea some, and hopefully this will help make things make sense. Hopefully you find this helpful, but don&#039;t hesitate to raise questions, I am happy to help where I can.

Blessings,

win]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the delay, Mohit, I got busy and this got set to the side. My bad.</p>
<p>Let me start by also suggesting Colin Duriez&#8217;s book, &#8220;The CS Lewis Encyclopedia.&#8221; It is a great reference. This is how he addresses the matter of the &#8220;numinous.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Numinous: An all-pervasive sense of the other is focused in a quality of the numinous, a basic human experience charted by the German thinker Rudolf Otto in his book, &#8220;The Idea of the Holy&#8221; (1923), which deeply influenced Lewis. The primary numinous experience involves a sense of dependence upon what stands wholly other to mankind. This otherness (or otherworldliness) is unapproachable and awesome. But it has a fascination. The experience of the numinous is captured better by suggestion and allusion than by a theoretical analysis.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Many realities captured in imaginative fiction could be described as having some quality of the numinous. CS Leis realized this, incorporation the idea into his apologetic for the Christian view of suffering, &#8220;The Problem of Pain,&#8221; and he cited an event from Kenneth Graham&#8217;s fantasy for children, &#8220;The Wind in the Willows,&#8221; to illustrate it. The final part of &#8220;The Voyage of the Dawn Treader&#8221; particularly embodies the numinous, as travelers approach Aslan&#8217;s Country across the Last Sea.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Where the numinous is captured, its appeal is firstly to the imagination, which also senses it most accurately. It belongs to the area of meaning that we cannot easily conceptualize. CS Lewis found the numinous when he read George MacDonald&#8217;s &#8220;Phantasies,&#8221; describing the effect in &#8220;Surprised by Joy&#8221; as baptizing his imagination. It was years later that he was able to reconcile this experience with his thinking.&#8221;<br />
-Colin Duriez, &#8220;The CS Lewis Encyclopedia&#8221;, page 149. Copyright 2000 by Inspirational Press.</p>
<p>If you look at the introduction to Lewis&#8217; book, he unpackages the idea of numinous a bit &#8212; separating the idea of fear (the lion in the next room) from dread (the ghost in the room) from awe (the presence of the altogether holy God in the room). Like Duriez points out, it is not so much a tangible experience or feeling that one can put their finger on by analysis, but it is the twisting of one&#8217;s gut or perhaps the goose-bumps that arise on one&#8217;s arms or the small hairs on the back of one&#8217;s neck standing up in the presence of one totally not of this world.</p>
<p>I think that an excellent Biblical example can be found in the various theophanies we find in the Bible &#8212; Isaiah&#8217;s experience in the Temple in Isaiah 6, for example, where Isaiah&#8217;s only response is: &#8220;woe is me.&#8221; John the Apostle has a similar experience in Revelation 1, where his only reaction is to fall down as if dead. It is the kind of sense that we ought to get when we come into the presence of God for prayer and worship (though we are often way too casual in both of these areas). </p>
<p>In Lewis&#8217; writings, he develops the idea of &#8220;the normal.&#8221; For a lack of a better way to describe it, it comes from the sense that there are certain attributes that are found pleasing to the eye &#8212; certain shapes, colors, combinations of sounds, proportions, for example, that just seem &#8220;right&#8221; and proper and others that seem at best unpleasant and at worst, obscene.</p>
<p>It is from the presence of the numinous that the &#8220;normal&#8221; gets its &#8220;rightness.&#8221; And that is what leads to the Problem of Pain. God is good and his presence of holiness (numinous) is right and holy. Why then does this God permit such wickedness to take place n this world of his? </p>
<p>Here is my suggestion. Plow through the book and get the gist of his argument, and then come back to this idea some, and hopefully this will help make things make sense. Hopefully you find this helpful, but don&#8217;t hesitate to raise questions, I am happy to help where I can.</p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
<p>win</p>
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		<title>Comment on Aquinas&#8217; Five Ways:  Proofs for the Existence of God from General Revelation by preacherwin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 13:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen, it is good to hear from you, Dennis. May God bless you and your family in, through, and with his grace.  In Christ,  w]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Aquinas&#8217; Five Ways:  Proofs for the Existence of God from General Revelation by Dr. Dennis Bonnette</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice to see that Anne perceives the presence of God in all His creation.  Of course, the variability of the planet&#039;s weather primarily comes from  the speed of rotation, which causes wind patterns. If Earth rotated any  faster, our winds would constantly be disastrous; if any slower, we  would get too hot in the day and too cold in the night. God has set our  orb rotating at its best speed for all mankind. And I would attribute  present weather &quot;extremes&quot; mostly to long term patterns that we are  simply not anticipating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see that Anne perceives the presence of God in all His creation.  Of course, the variability of the planet&#8217;s weather primarily comes from  the speed of rotation, which causes wind patterns. If Earth rotated any  faster, our winds would constantly be disastrous; if any slower, we  would get too hot in the day and too cold in the night. God has set our  orb rotating at its best speed for all mankind. And I would attribute  present weather &#8220;extremes&#8221; mostly to long term patterns that we are  simply not anticipating.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Psalm 52 by preacherwin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 13:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Z, for the comment. God Bless you.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Z, for the comment. God Bless you.</p>
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